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Darren Beachy

Hi Wade,
I think preaching is important for sure. I think there needs to be a prophetic voice in preaching, which is lacking in some "white" churches today.
I wonder just how many are transformed by preaching. There is no dialogue in preaching, only monologue. I think there needs to be questions asked during the preaching event but that is not the way it happens today.

For example, I do not think for one second that Jesus "preached" the "sermon on the mount" all at one time. I believe they are a collection of teachings. Why? Because every one of those teachings are quite radical and go against the "status quo." Can you imagine preaching ALL of the "sermon on the mount"? WHAT? 'Blessed are the poor'? "Wait a minute...what does that mean?"

I once preached a lesson on the passage where Jesus as he was on his way to Jerusalem and a crowd was following him turned to them and said, "If anyone would come after me he must (hate) his family AND take up his cross and follow me" (my paraphrase). I addressed both of those issues in one sermon. All the feeback I received from the sermon the people said they could not quite grasp why Jesus said to (hate)one's family (although I tried my best to explain it in the sermon). Many could not get past the hating family part, let alone taking up ones cross.

So I think dialogue and not monologue is what is needed in preaching to be more effective. Will that happen? Probably not! I believe there is more transformation in seeing the Christian life lived in everyday life (one author calls this "parabolic witness")which happens in community (small groups and such).

Frank

Wade, I'm really enjoying these posts on preaching. I agree with you that churches should want and work for having a strong ministry of the Word. About preaching and why people are part of a certain church: For the first visit a person makes to a congregation, the most likely reason is an invitation from a family member or a friend. But when people come back a second time, it is connected to the quality of the preaching they heard the first time.

Preaching usually takes place in the context of worship. I believe that the spiritual quality of a worship time impacts how the message will be preached and heard. I always appreciate it when an entire worship time is planned out and conducted well. It shows that the leadership cares, that the congregation is serious about its faith. And the impact on the worshipper is often greater than the sum of the parts of the worship time. I believe that prayerfully-planned worship falls into the category of "considering how we can spur one another on to love and good works." The Scripture also says that by participating in the Lord's Supper the church proclaims Jesus' death until he comes. The church has a lot of choices to make in how its proclamation is made. Is it thoughtless, a mere habit? Not much of an announcement. Is it thoughtful, approached with high regard. That resounds.

preacherman

I want to encourage and build up the congregation on Sunday. I preach in a way that helps them live the Christian life Sunday to Sunday. When people leave they feel strengthened, encouraged and uplifted. I hope that I get them to think about their lives, change some things but I am mostly grace-oriented and preach a lot on God's love, grace, mercy, hope, compassion, forgiveness, how to deal with life problems and countless other topics that people need to hear in this 21st Century.

Wade, I know you are a great preach when I work with you in Kansas. You know the word, you have a passion for God and His word. I know you want people to know Jesus. I have seen it through your sermon and your life. Your sermons in Kansas helped keep me going brother. I pray for you always brother becuase you friendship and preaching has changed my life. Thank you brother for being such an encouragement to me. I hope you have a blessed week.
Kinney Mabry
Aka,
Preacherman! :-)

preacherman

I love your family and pray God's richest blessings on your life brother.

Darin

I'm listening and thinking.

Thanks for the messages.

Josh from Gabbatha

Great post. Have you heard any sermons from Jonathan Storment at RHCC?

David D.

"Preaching usually takes place in the context of worship. I believe that the spiritual quality of a worship time impacts how the message will be preached and heard. I always appreciate it when an entire worship time is planned out and conducted well. It shows that the leadership cares, that the congregation is serious about its faith. And the impact on the worshipper is often greater than the sum of the parts of the worship time. I believe that prayerfully-planned worship falls into the category of "considering how we can spur one another on to love and good works." The Scripture also says that by participating in the Lord's Supper the church proclaims Jesus' death until he comes. The church has a lot of choices to make in how its proclamation is made. Is it thoughtless, a mere habit? Not much of an announcement. Is it thoughtful, approached with high regard. That resounds."

I agree wholeheartedly with these comments. The "worship service" should be planned to coordinate with the sermon. Then it can enhance and build the mind to be ready for the message. Scripture readings should be a part of the worship--but they should relate to the sermon and/or the Communion. The time of Communion should always be emphasized. It is remembering what drew us there in the first place!

In most cases people [visitors] will return if they have worshipped even if the message is less than desirable in quality and presentation. But I doubt that many will return if the message is top grade but the worship in poor. [That's my 2 cents worth]

In regard to expository preaching--having "grown up in the church"--most of what I have experienced is topical. In fact the only consistent expository preaching encountered was while attending ACU and was done by Dr. Paul Faulkner on Sunday evenings at Minter Lane.
He would preach through books of the Bible and speak for 45 minutes and it always seemed only 15 minutes. He generally did a chapter at a time.

Bobby Valentine

Wade, I have misplaced your phone #. Give me a call on my cell ...

Seeking Shalom,
Bobby Valentine

preacherman

Wade,
I hope you had a great earth day! :-)

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